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Question: (Involves Annie Cohen-Solal)

topic posted Tue, September 27, 2005 - 5:32 PM by  Με||όώ
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Question: Are these regarded as "scholarly" in France?
My freshman daughter has a prof who won't let her use French sources because he doesn't read french and cannot evaluate them . . .

wtf? I thought when you went to college every source was fair game but he wants scholarly AND ENGLISH ONLY!!
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    Re: Question: (Involves Annie Cohen-Solal)

    Wed, September 28, 2005 - 7:36 PM
    if it's college, it should be all used. she needs only provide teh journal name, and maybe a reivew of that journal.

    when i was teaching i had students use german, russina, japanese, etc. :-)

    I asked taht they 1) provide translation, 2) provide the journal's status, or a review of the journal.

    if she still is not allowed, she should go to teh dept heads. I'm not kidding. if she can read french, it is her right to use ANY soiurce.
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      Re: Question: (Involves Annie Cohen-Solal)

      Fri, September 30, 2005 - 6:52 PM
      imho, it's her right to use any source even if she cannot read it at the outset . . . she can damn well learn the necessary language, at least for purposes of the article . . . that's what I did when I was going through college, and still do, when I run into something I need or want to understand . . .
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        Re: Question: (Involves Annie Cohen-Solal)

        Fri, September 30, 2005 - 6:58 PM
        Persoanlly, i wouldn't agree. well, no. i agree it is her right. but for me, the subtatliy of language suggests that if you don't kown the language decently, you'll miss key aspects. and as a teacher, i wouldn't mind you including it, but i'd not let it be a key source.

        i also nixed any and all internet searches. Those did and do tick me off, as it's very hard to find anything that is peer reviewed online. unless of course, you are doing a paper like "the rise of neo nazis via the internt". :-)
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          Re: Question: (Involves Annie Cohen-Solal)

          Fri, September 30, 2005 - 7:13 PM
          google's scholar search is getting better, but it won't give full text . . .
          if you're a student at a university in the states these days, they have the databases that allow you search for articles in any language . . .
          I agree with you about not knowing the nuances of languages, esp. just starting out in a new language . . . but I'm also keen on learning new languages, because most people are afraid of new languages for all the wrong reasons . . . esp. in the us . . . when you put "scholarly" on as an adjective you wind up with languages that borrow words from the source of the new . . . and if you read french in particular you see its vocabulary borrowing . . . you gotta get the verbs and prepositions down . . . and if you already know spanish it's not that hard ... as her daddy, I know if she sits down and spends a little time with it she will comprehend far more than she expects she will, and more than someone who's never been exposed to another language at all . . . I'm trying desperately to whet her appetite for new languages and I'm pissed off that her prof was so negative about it
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            Re: Question: (Involves Annie Cohen-Solal)

            Tue, October 4, 2005 - 2:31 PM
            i kinda disagree with lots in this post, but you blew me away with the last two lines.

            I'm trying desperately to whet her appetite for new languages and I'm pissed off that her prof was so negative about it
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            YES YES YES YES YES YES YES


            god it's sad. someone posted a study that said "most" of europe speaks 2 languages fluently, and often 3 or 4 at least on a "where's the toilet" level.

            But in the us, we aer so scared of language, we don't even let our little kids be exposed to native spanish in places like CA, NM, and AZ where it is spoken by those kids fluently. Imagine hwo much easeier it would have been for your goal, if your -say 1st grade - daughter has a best friend who is spanish, and is being taught spanish in school while her best friend is being taught english.
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