Who was the post-structuralist philosopher that wrote essays on America? I don't think it was Derrida, I'm not thinking of Barthes, and it was pre-BHL's latest on the USA after de Toqueville. Anybody?
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Re: post-structuralist essays on USA
Fri, May 26, 2006 - 3:58 PMperhaps you're thinking of baudrilliard's /america/?
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 3:59 PMYou're probably thining of Jean Baudrillard, who published a book called simply 'America'.
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 5:22 PMmaybe it was baudrilliard's America? -
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 5:23 PMCould you be referring to this book?
www.amazon.com/gp/product...724-3217529 -
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 5:35 PMi didn't read this thru, but i was once at a great lecture from jerry brown ( in his days inbetween being eaten alive by political
agendas ) where he quoted Baudrilliard... most probably from this book where he says about the simulacrum:
" Disneyland was created just so that everyone would think that the world we actually live in is real."
hahahahaha , it gives me belly laughs everytime... even in its creepy precision.
ah and then poor jerry, the incurable political junky, had to go and mainline again.
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 5:27 PMNO! it must have been Baudrilliard's America? -
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 5:49 PMah , actually that quote's probably a bit off...
cause it was more specifically a specific swipe at America having created the themepark culture...
if anyone happens to have that book... and wants to pull it up exact... -
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 5:51 PMto be specifically specific...
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 6:55 PMBaudrillard's 'Disneyland' argument is his most famous, and probably most coherent, philosophical statement. It's in Simulations, but he might have talked about it elsewhere else as well. I can't read very much of that guy without getting annoyed by all the games he plays. -
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Sun, May 28, 2006 - 7:11 PM> I can't read very much of that guy without getting annoyed by all the games he plays.
Cheri, he's a French philosophe, and you want him not to play games. Sacre bleu, what a concept!
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Fri, May 26, 2006 - 10:55 PMMais OUI <smacking self on head with hand>. It WAS Baudrillard. MERCI a tous et a toutes! Thank you. I'm off to France in a couple of weeks and will dash into Fnac and grab a copy for the flight back. Super.
BTW I flipped through BHL's tome on America and found it vaguely irritating and full of superficial pseudo-insight. For example, "The banks in America look like churches, but this church looked like a bank." What kind of churches in France look like American banks? It seems to me this type of thing is just a cheap shot.
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Sat, May 27, 2006 - 12:41 AMthis thread is hilarious.
rachael: re: BHL-- i saw him on charlie rose a little while, and also got the superficial insight vibe (kind of like zizek through a valium haze). who is this guy? has he done anything worthwhile, or is he just the flavor of the month.
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Mon, October 23, 2006 - 6:42 PMThere's a great book on French intellectual writing about america if interested I'll dig up the reference.
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Mon, October 23, 2006 - 7:59 PMDerrida and Habermas co-wrote a book on life after the September 11th attacks--both had been in NYC just a couple of weeks before, and that perspective informed the book. I haven't read the book yet. But, that's another book to add to this list. -
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Tue, October 24, 2006 - 10:31 AMreally? wow. can you send a reference? -
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Tue, October 24, 2006 - 4:26 PMHere you go.
www.amazon.com/Philosophy...362-2073733
It's mostly two independent essays by the authors, not a joint project. It was interesting as a peace gesture after long, public acrimony.
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off topic, but...
Sun, November 5, 2006 - 10:44 PMi liked franz kafka's writings on america, e.g. the second part of "the sons" and "amerika". they'd qualify imo as a precursor to post-structuralism.
