thanks for reading and responding at All btw.

the initial post wasn't really a stab at philosophy, so much as
grabbing hold of realworld events that i would assume be of interest to french
culture enthusiasts and alert even semi-related tribes about an event at Station 40, which is a very active,
unique and deep-thinking collective space... ( not to mention on the cutting-edge techwise :
they had a video chat with a student activist at the sorbonne, who streamed her video footage ).
AND it's a great meeting pt. to philosophize on such things
in person.

And i am prone to think that the best philosophizing comes out of interacting with and bouncing
off of current situations, and perhaps in juxtaposition to atypical past events.

i consider myself a complete novice in the realm of french philoshophy... and would like to learn
more. simultaneously i like to get ahead of the curves and instinctually felt that
with an eruption like may 68 and/or NOW, there's bound to be some sweet radical fruits in it's wake...
i.e Deleuze...

just discovered this fantastic site and this incredible apropos interview...damn^&$! , when the internet doesn't
completely suk as a human interface, it can be absolutely amazing...what an "untimely" synch, check this out:


Control and Becoming
Gilles Deleuze in conversation with Antonio Negri

Negri: You took the events of '68 to be the triumph of the Untimely, the dawn of counteractualization. Already in the years leading up to '68, in your work on Nietzsche and a bit later in Coldness and Cruelty, you 'd given a new mean­ing to politics—as possibility, event, singularity. You 'd found short-circuits where the future breaks through into the present, modifying institutions in its wake. But then after '68 you take a slightly different approach: nomadic thought always takes the temporal form of instantaneous counteractualization, while spatially only "minority becoming is universal." How should we understand this universality of the untimely?

Deleuze: The thing is, I became more and more aware of the possibility of dis­tinguishing between becoming and history. It was Nietzsche who said that nothing important is ever free from a "nonhistorical cloud." This isn't to oppose eternal and historical, or contemplation and action: Nietzsche is talking about the way things happen, about events them­selves or becoming. What history grasps in an event is the way it's actu­alized in particular circumstances; the event's becoming is beyond the scope of history. History isn't experimental,3 it's just the set of more or less negative preconditions that make it possible to experi­ment with something beyond history. Without history the experi­mentation would remain indeterminate, lacking any initial condi­tions, but experimentation isn't historical. In a major philosophical work, Clio, Peguy explained that there are two ways of considering events, one being to follow the course of the event, gathering how it comes about historically, how it's prepared and then decomposes in history, while the other way is to go back into the event, to take one's place in it as in a becoming, to grow both young and old in it at once, going through all its components or singularities. Becoming isn't part of history; history amounts only the set of preconditions, however recent, that one leaves behind in order to "become," that is, to create something new. This is precisely what Nietzsche calls the Untimely. May 68 was a demonstration, an irruption, of a becoming in its pure state. It's fashionable these days to condemn the horrors of revolu­tion. It's nothing new; English Romanticism is permeated by reflec­tions on Cromwell very similar to present-day reflections on Stalin.4 They say revolutions turn out badly. But they're constantly confusing two different things, the way revolutions turn out historically and peo­ple's revolutionary becoming. These relate to two different sets of people. Men's only hope lies in a revolutionary becoming: the only way of casting off their shame or responding to what is intolerable.

full interview here:
www.generation-online.org/p/fpd...e3.htm


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btw it's a hell of a lot more fun to agitate where yur neither wanted nor expected...
barking at the proletariat about an already acknowledged crisis kinda makes for an
echo chamber and lack of friction...

respex,
podp